1. SPS Accounts:
    Do you find yourself coming back time after time? Do you appreciate the ongoing hard work to keep this community focused and successful in its mission? Please consider supporting us by upgrading to an SPS Account. Besides the warm and fuzzy feeling that comes from supporting a good cause, you'll also get a significant number of ever-expanding perks and benefits on the site and the forums. Click here to find out more.
    Dismiss Notice
Dismiss Notice
You are currently viewing Boards o' Magick as a guest, but you can register an account here. Registration is fast, easy and free. Once registered you will have access to search the forums, create and respond to threads, PM other members, upload screenshots and access many other features unavailable to guests.

BoM cultivates a friendly and welcoming atmosphere. We have been aiming for quality over quantity with our forums from their inception, and believe that this distinction is truly tangible and valued by our members. We'd love to have you join us today!

(If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us. If you've forgotten your username or password, click here.)

Something wrong with my Shield of Balduran

Discussion in 'BG2: Throne of Bhaal (Classic)' started by Klorox, May 23, 2006.

  1. kuemper Gems: 31/31
    Latest gem: Rogue Stone


    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2005
    Messages:
    8,926
    Likes Received:
    8
    I have the ToB patch and Baldurdash, but the cloak of mirroring does not reflect spells for my games.
     
  2. Tardazor Gems: 4/31
    Latest gem: Sunstone


    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2004
    Messages:
    91
    Likes Received:
    0
    ¿Some weird bug in instalation, maybe? Because in my games, the cloak of mirroring and the shield of Baldur does´nt reflect any spell.
     
  3. Felinoid

    Felinoid Who did the what now?

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2005
    Messages:
    7,470
    Likes Received:
    6
    Gender:
    Male
    Well, I wouldn't know about spells. I leave the Cloak of Cheese off most of the time. All I know is that is works on the Beholder rays.
     
  4. Drew

    Drew Arrogant, contemptible, and obnoxious Adored Veteran

    Joined:
    Jun 7, 2005
    Messages:
    3,605
    Media:
    6
    Likes Received:
    190
    Gender:
    Male
    I believe it stops reflecting just from installing ToB. I don't think the patch is necessary. I just reinstalled BG2 (and have yet to install any mods) on a new computer and I can definitely verify that on unmodded, patched ToB the cloak of reflection actually doesn't.
     
  5. rich0203 Gems: 2/31
    Latest gem: Fire Agate


    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2006
    Messages:
    33
    Likes Received:
    0
    I was upset by the newer version of the cloak in TOB. Not just because it absorbs spells instead of reflecting, but because it actually changed the animation to a spell trap so I couldn't see my cool looking character. And it's definately not fun having the spells not kill their casters. Has anyone noticed if this is true for the shield that reflects missiles?
     
  6. Klorox

    Klorox Baruk Khazad! Khazad ai-mênu! Veteran

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2003
    Messages:
    2,980
    Likes Received:
    7
    There is a very small mod on this site that makes the Cloak look the way it used to.

    I'll take that bump as meaning nobody know how to fix this problem, eh?
     
  7. Kitrax

    Kitrax Pantaloons are supposed to go where!?!?

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2002
    Messages:
    7,899
    Media:
    74
    Likes Received:
    96
    Gender:
    Male
    Ok, time for me to pipe in here.

    I usually travel with the shield of Balduran for obvious reasons, and I just finished the Unseeing Eye quest, and for the first time, the SoB didn't do it's job 100%. Sure it protected my figher (Saerileth) from the rays, but not one of them was reflected. She was near, far, and everywhere in between...and still no reflection. :confused:

    I checked my override folder, and there was no WA2SHIEL.ITM listed. :bang:

    The only mods that are new to the mix are the Saerileth NPC, Kitanya NPC, Quest Packs, Boards of Magick item pack, and the Crossmod Banter Pack.

    I wonder if it has anything to do with the EoU's "Smarter beholders" component... :rolling:
     
  8. JSBB Gems: 31/31
    Latest gem: Rogue Stone


    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2003
    Messages:
    4,054
    Likes Received:
    1
    I have had the same problem before but I could usually fix it by unequipping and then re-equiping the shield. I have no idea what caused the problem though.
     
  9. Klorox

    Klorox Baruk Khazad! Khazad ai-mênu! Veteran

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2003
    Messages:
    2,980
    Likes Received:
    7
    Months later, I'm still having this problem. This is a completely new, fresh install of the game.

    Grrr!
     
  10. Anjo Gems: 6/31
    Latest gem: Jasper


    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2005
    Messages:
    153
    Likes Received:
    0
    I noticed this first time in my current run too. Mods I've installed are:

    Official Patch
    G3 Fixpack
    G3 Tweaks
    Dungeon-Be-Gone
     
  11. hendak Gems: 2/31
    Latest gem: Fire Agate


    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2006
    Messages:
    41
    Likes Received:
    0
    I can't help with the Shield of Balduran, but for me, the Cloak of Mirroring stopped reflecting and merely deflected. After finding the cloak item file (clck26?) in my override folder and deleting it, it became a reflector again. But I never buy the Shield, so I know nothing about that.
     
  12. CamDawg

    CamDawg The gaze of the Wolf reaches into our soul Veteran

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2003
    Messages:
    1,116
    Likes Received:
    11
    The Cloak of Reflection doesn't change from SoA to ToB, it's the Cloak of Mirroring that changes. In SoA it reflects spells back to the caster, whereas in ToB it simply causes them to do nothing.

    As for the Shield of Balduran, I've experienced it not reflecting rays as well. Usually you can simply re-equip it or (if it's being stubborn) reload from a save and it will start working properly again. Both it and the Cloak of Reflection use the physical mirror effect which can be a bit flaky.
     
  13. Sikret Gems: 13/31
    Latest gem: Ziose


    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2006
    Messages:
    573
    Likes Received:
    4
    Shield of Balduran is designed in a way that two of its effects (namely, reflecting beholder rays and the strength penalty) do not automatically bypass the wielder's magic resistance. This can also explain why re-equipping the shield can solve the problem temporarily. To test whether this is the cause of the problem, try to use it on a character who doesn't have any MR at all and let me know if it makes any change. (I will fix the shield for the next IA release and will increase its price in the shop.)
     
  14. Anjo Gems: 6/31
    Latest gem: Jasper


    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2005
    Messages:
    153
    Likes Received:
    0
    Of course, and don't forget charisma -1.
     
  15. CamDawg

    CamDawg The gaze of the Wolf reaches into our soul Veteran

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2003
    Messages:
    1,116
    Likes Received:
    11
    This is incorrect. Effects targeted at self (1) never check magic resistance.
     
  16. Icarian Gems: 1/31
    Latest gem: Turquoise


    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2009
    Messages:
    2
    Likes Received:
    0
    I have this problem too. No solution has been found I assume?

    I have a number of mods installed (G3 fixpack, a bare-bones installation of scsii, questpack, unfinished business, and various NPC mods), but to my knowledge, none of them have a reflection-tweaking component, nor would I have installed it if they did.

    I do have a wa2shiel.itm file in my override folder, but deleting it doesn't fix the shield -- not with reloading, repeated equipping and dropping, or consoling in a new one. In fact, it makes the shield even *worse* than it was before, as some rays actually bypass it and damage the character holding it now.

    Quite annoying really. I'd like to clear the underdark lair, but without the shield, it's too much of a chore to be worth it. For the record, I cleared it legitimately quite a few times, even with scsii components installed, and frankly, I always found the whole thing more tedious than "challenging".

    Does anyone have an idea how to fix this issue?
     
  17. rbx4 Gems: 1/31
    Latest gem: Turquoise


    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2011
    Messages:
    1
    Likes Received:
    0
    Gender:
    Male
    I've had this problem sometimes. I recently fixed it by changing my sound settings. I set my sounds back to default, and my shield amazingly started reflecting rays again.
     
  18. Pyroreaver Gems: 2/31
    Latest gem: Fire Agate


    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2008
    Messages:
    44
    Likes Received:
    0
    that's just proves what I have always suspected, that beholders use sound to propagate their rays!
     
Sorcerer's Place is a project run entirely by fans and for fans. Maintaining Sorcerer's Place and a stable environment for all our hosted sites requires a substantial amount of our time and funds on a regular basis, so please consider supporting us to keep the site up & running smoothly. Thank you!

Sorcerers.net is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to products on amazon.com, amazon.ca and amazon.co.uk. Amazon and the Amazon logo are trademarks of Amazon.com, Inc. or its affiliates.