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The American Government Goes Back to Work

Discussion in 'Alley of Lingering Sighs' started by Chandos the Red, Jan 3, 2007.

  1. Chandos the Red

    Chandos the Red This Wheel's on Fire

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    He did. There were only four votes against the purchase. As a result, America was able to purchase an amount land equal to a quarter of its total current land area. :)

    They were - it is called the notion of "implied powers."

    BTW, the words "to promote the general welfare" appear at the beginning of the Constitution; it essentially means the same thing as the "common good" ...

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    Montresor Mostly Harmless Staff Member ★ SPS Account Holder

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    I call it "Usurpation." Or maybe "Misuse of political office."

    Yes, in the Preamble. It is given as a reason for establishing and ordaining the Constitution. But the Preamble doesn't grant the United States government any powers, the Constitution itself grants certain powers, and the 10th Amendment then goes on to deny the federal government all other powers.
     
  3. Chandos the Red

    Chandos the Red This Wheel's on Fire

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    That's true, it's a statement of principle. The argument you have with George Washington and Alexander Hamilton, and by siding with James Madison and Thomas Jefferson, on this core issue on the powers of government, is the same one that helped launch the two-party system in the US. The argument has never been resolved but is still ongoing, and the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence are the frameworks in which that argument have largely been taking place for over two hundred years.

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