The bad of NWN2

the comparisons to KotOR (which I loved) make me want to play the game (as I wasn't a fan of the first NWN anyway).. but my computer is too crappy and slow guess I'll stick to the BG series-KotOR series-PS:T Triumvirate :/

 

oki - i'll check back on this game in a couple of years see it has grown enough . Till then there are other games to play. Given the list of flaws i fear i will never enjoy it. Maybe go for a quick test run to see the good points, if any, as reference for future games.

 

Same here. I will also be putting all my plans to buy / build a new PC on to the shelf seeing as there is no point, now that I don't need to meet NWN2's superhuman hardware requirements. Thanks for saving me $2,000, catbert. Your cheque is, er, in the mail.

 

I don't deny any of the problems catbert mentioned. I am, however, still playing the game. I complain about it constantly, but still find myself in front of the computer playing it. I think the problem is that I have been so starved for a new D&D based CRPG that I am willing to put up with crap -- just not quietly. The story starts off poorly, but I think it improves a bit by chapter 2.

Personally, my *biggest* issue is load times. I have timed out several load times, and come up with approximate averages. Keep in mind I'm running the minimum specs.

To start first intro movie after clicking "play" -- 2:45 minutes to 3:05 minutes.

To load a saved game -- 1:30 minutes to 2:00 minutes.

To save a game (named, or with "quicksave," or with "autosave) -- about 1:30 minutes.

To load a new area -- about 2:00 minutes, on average.

So, when I want to start the game, it takes about 5 minutes just to load the first game, assuming I click through all the movies. And it takes almost that long to transition from one major area of the map to another if an autosave is required.

 

Bombur, that would frustrate the heck out of me.

 

@Harbourboy: Got that right! I can't just sit here, so I read, or I clean the house, or I take a shower, or whatever. This is going to be one of those games I play once and then put away for good.

 

@Bombur

Or shelf it for a couple of years, wait for a few more patches to improve it, and by that time the requirements will be easily met by a fairly average PC. Hell, I'm sure there will be some great player made modules by then too!

 

Bombur ,

I found those load times a shock as I have yet to experience a load that takes more than 10 seconds. Most are done in 5.

 

Mine are a lot quicker than bombur's as well. I have 2GB of RAM on machine machine. I'm not sure what Bombur has, but I'm guessing it's less than that.

 

What a pity it turned out like this, I really waited this one. Well I've bought enough games that haven't been worth the money spent so I'll leave NWN2 for now.

Thank you for the info catbert.

 

Catbert, you absolutely just saved me $50. I'll bake you a cake and mail it to you immediately.

 

Catbert saved me $2,000. He rules. I'll bake him another cake and email it to him immediately.

 

I think that most of you are missing the point. Neverwinter Nights 2 is not a bad game. It's really not. NWN2 is an AVERAGE game, doomed to fail after years of hope, anxiety, and omg-im-gonna-crap-my-pants-if-this-doesn't-come-out-soon anticipation. I mean really, Neverwinter Nights has never existed, and this were merely the beginning, and you had heard none of the hype, read no reviews, and just plain bought the game on a whim and started playing it, would you be so disappointed? I mean, it's not like you'd think it was brilliant, but at least your expectations wouldn'tve been crushed like CB's obviously have been. The fact of the matter is, big-name companies all-too-often get caught up in the past, and rather than striving to improve their old game with the passion and originality that they showed in the beginning, they get caught up in the hype and make an attempt to cash in for easy bucks. Remember a little company called BioWare? Now THERE was a company famous for creating a brilliant game, then following straight up with a knock-out sequel. I think that is Obsidian had just taken a leaf out of BioWare's book, that is, a PASSION FOR EXCELLENCE, none of this would've happened. But because Obsidian lost sight of what was really important, which was to deliver a brilliant game to satisfy the expectations of thousands of gamers whose lives had influenced by the game they had PROMISED to succeed; we are left with merely a shadow of what we should have been given. THAT is why Neverwinter Nights 2 was such a disappointment, as well as a mediocre game. It wasn't just the bugs, and it wasn't just the hype. It wasn't even the gameplay. What ruined this game was a lack of passion.

 

For $2,000 You could build a Core 2 Duo Extreme Desktop PC, with 4GB ram, 512-1024MB Video and still have enough left over for a monitor, surround sound speakers, G15 keyboard and a wireless/wired combo router...

FYI, that PC would run any game that comes out for the next 5 years (before 32+ core chips come out that replace the need for Grahpics Cards), the Core 2 Extreme is an amazing chip.

 

Um, $2,000 New Zealand Dollars, that is. That will only buy you a slightly above average PC.

 

Saved me a boatload of cash as well. considering I was also contemplating building a new gaming rig just for NWN2. Guess I can just buy a laptop and a PS2 then.