The Official World Cup Thread (no.1)

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Guys, four years ago, after the England-Argentina game, someone photoshopped an image of Argentinian players lining up to block a freekick, he gave all the players a handbag. Does anyone recall what picture i'm talking about here, and if yes, does anyone still have it, or know where i could get it from ?

 

It's spelled "dago". The word is derived from the name "Diego".

Read about the England-Argentina football rivalry here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentina_and_England_football_rivalry

You'll also find the "handbag" picture there.

The 1982 war between England and Argentina has certainly been important.

 

Whoa, i never knew the England vs. Argentina rivalry went way beyond the Falklands like that. The "hand of god" issue must have hurt the English right where it hurts.

Btw...would i step on too many toes if i said that "the hand of god" is just too much credit for a cheater ? Wouldn't "the hand of the addict" be more appropriate ? Someone correct me if i'm out of line here.

 

The abbreviation "S&M" has been taken for another thingy. Serbia and Montenegro should be abbreviate as SMT or SCG, just avoid S&M.

 

It's (or was) my country, so I'll call it anything I please. Besides sadomasochism (in a non-sexual context) nicely describes what it feels like to watch them play.

 

Feel for you Vukodlak and S&M is a way better team than both T&T and Paraguay but this just shows how good Argentina is and what can happen if you give up and just want the torture to end.

Pseudospawn, you need to check your eyes, England won against Paraguay with an own goal and it generally looked quite shaky and against TT it could just as easily have ended 0-0. I have seen all the games in the group now and despite me being a negative pessimistic bastard I have to say that the best football was played by Sweden against Para. England does not look like a contender and I think tradition and attitude will make it extremely hard for England to beat Sweden (especially since they dont have to).

 

We don't need to play well yet. We just need to get results .

Whether or not we try our best to beat Sweden will depend a lot on the Ecuador v Germany match. I don't think tradition and attitude will come into it. If we need to win to finish top and avoid Germany, I think we will do. A team can only be a bogey team for so long before the curse is broken.

Although to be honest, Ecuador look a more dangerous side right now!

 

I think England should play to win regardless of who finishes top in group A, because if England win their group and Argentina win theirs they will be placed in seperate halfs of the draw and will not meet till late in the tournament, semi final or final i think. So basically if England lose their group so that they play Ecuador in the second round they may well end up playing Argentina the round after (even though we recently beat them in a friendly), and i would much rather us play Germany than Argentina. However if England, Germany and Argentina all win their groups we will avoid Germany in the next round aswell as Argentina till as late as the final so the last group games could be very important.

 

That's right, no hard feelings for me either. Is jusrt that there are lots of people still who remember the stupid war and take that to whenever Argentina and England play a match, and some go even way back in time, when Rattin got his red card because (I don't remember the player's name) an English player kicked him all the game and he didn't got even a free kick.


Here in Spain people started to 'feel', after the 4 to 0 game, that they surely are in the path to the championship... After Argentina's 6-0, they are already afraid of us, praying for some other team to beat us

 

Actually, Rattin got his red card for swearing at the ref repeatedly .

But as I say, the England v Australia rivalry is extremely fierce, but not really nasty. I don't remember any serious crowd trouble at an England Argentina game. It's just a slightly more... edgy version of the England v Australia cricket rivalry .

 

so...... which team beat u.s. the other day?

[edit,
due to the reply i've gotten,
i need to state that this is not a real question.]

[ June 18, 2006, 00:21: Message edited by: teekc ]

 

So Ghana beat the Chech Republic 2-nil - whoa that's .. great

 

The Czech republic, who were just beat 2-0 by Ghana though. U.S.A are playing Italy now and have started surprisingly well, they look much improved there may be an upset on the cards methinks

EDIT:

2 seconds after i posted this Gilardino scored for Italy im such a crap predictor

EDIT NO.2:

WOO! America just scored, own goal by Zicardo (spelling?) and de rossi has just been sent off for an obvious elbow on McBride... did i say an upset was on the cards? im such a good predictor

[ June 17, 2006, 21:32: Message edited by: Duffin ]

 

game tied, rossi sent off, my american suitmate shouting.

 

Go go USA! Very cool game and if there is a game to catch the interest of the yanks this one is it. Blood, goals, sending offs and fierce attitude.

 

@teek: Czech Republic won 3 to 0 to USA.

Go USA!! They have to win, thy deserve to win; Italy did nothing when they were 10 on 10, now that they are 10 on 9 they are doing some plays...

 

Feel sorry for the ref, he had to take a truck load of difficult decisions but I generally thought he did it very well. Pope's sending off and the disallowed goal might seem harsh but then Italy might very well have gotten a penalty kick and several free kicks around the box so all in all an impressive and fair job of the ref.

 

What you mean is SM. One word. S&M implies two words.

 

Those whacky Spanish commentators.

http://www2.quiero.tv/tv/video.asp?url=1247

 

@Pac Man: Those aren't Spanish, those are Argentinian, from TE.LE.FE.; that commentator always sings something, just like in the video.