The Sucky Music Thread

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I've heard Green Day, but none of the others. I don't know if this particular type of band is distinctly "American", at least in the sense you are using it. I'm not trying to nit-pick at you, BA. I'm just trying to figure out what the music you object to "sounds" like. As for 14 year old little teeny boppers, again I don't think they are unique to America. I'm not sure, but I think Brittany Spears in not an American. Every country has its share of teeny boppers. And we won't even mention the Spice Girls.

As for Metal, and its sound, it rants much like its fans: METAL - RAH, RAH, RAH. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?! Yes, unfortunately.... :

 

I'm going to be attacked on this forum, but seriously, most metal I've heard is utter crap.

The metal I can stand: Tiamat, Nightwish, (some) Sonata Artica, (some) Type-O-Negative, (most) Opeth, Tool, Theatre of Tragedy, (some) Moonspell, and Dargaard (How can people even call this metal?).

The point is, I find most other metal bores me. It's too loud and in-your-face, as if the whole band is in competition to play the loudest, and then you have those awful noises emitted from their vocal chords that sound as if they're coughing up blood. Then you have the kind of metal where it's just random background sounds strung together to make irritating music that would parallel the Chinese water torture rhythm. The amount of different kinds of metal alone is enough to make even a Mensa member cringe.

I disagree on this statement. Yes, they are complete sellouts that use their looks more than their music, but that doesn't mean they can't sing. Christina Aguilera is one of the best singers I've ever heard. If you could honestly say she sucks ass, then I have to challenge you to try and sing just like her and compare fairly without mockery. I'm sorry if you don't like soprano, but that's no excuse to say it sucks.

 

As much as getting your point of view is interesting, Chandos... I am a fan of metal. Not every kind of metal is screamo - I am currently listening to Metallica's ...And Justice For All, which is by no means barking in a mike.

Please don't fall into generalizations.

 

Ok, but that's going to be hard, since this entire thread is crafted with nothing but generalizations.

 

Best male metal singer in the world. He used to be Iced Earth's lead singer.

Agreed here. Chistina can sing. But all other sugar pop stars can't

 

I laughed my arse off when I saw a documentary on Britney Spears where some record company guy said "there's no denying that Britney Spears is an excellent singer." I mean, dragging your feeble little voice out in moans like that, it sounds like a bad porn movie!

Unfortunately that's probably the idea. It sells.

 

There is a difference between the ability to sing and the qualitiy of the voice. Britney Spears can sing. She learned all the right technics. She used to have a good voice when she was a kid. But today it is awful.

 

I must dissagree with you, there are some excellent metal SINGERS (yes, they sing)

 

Well, perhaps you never had the talent?

 

I can growl if some one wants to listen to it...

 

@Undertaker: We can do a duet, if you wish. Like the one Dimmu Borgir did with Galder. I can growl as well as John Gallagher.

 

My friends tell that I growl close to Steve Tucker.But I can't hold on for too long. And on all those death metal concerts I scream as loud as I can (so does the crowd) so it almost always ends with 3 voiceless days
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First thing first: If I don't like rap, DOESN'T mean that rap is crap; if I like metal, DOESN'T mean that metal is the best / unique music. Speaking about music is like speaking about religion or politics, and quoting GTA2: "and remember, respect is everything". Is just a matter of taste, so if you want that someone respect your musical taste, respect other people taste.

So, since nowadays there are thousands of music styles I'll just point some 'bands/singers alike names' because I can't say I don't like metal because I do like some songs from Metallica or AC/DC.
I used to lesten rap in the 80s and 90s and I liked, I still have lots of CDs from that time (Twenty 4 Seven, Hammer, Culture Beat, C&C Music Factory, etc,). These days I like rap 'Eminem style', I don't like the typical rapper: a guy dressed with NBA/NFL/NHL clothes with platinium badges and 234 chains around the neck and 2 rings in each finger and in their videos are 45 girls shaking their arses.
I don't like bands like Blink 182 or Simple Plan and it gets worst because I get to hear them every time because they have songs in television advertisings.
Since New Kids on the Block started it all, I started to hate those kind of groups.
This could be very long, so I just point some names I don't like: Ricky Martin and all alike; Jennifer Lopez and all alike; Oasis and bands like that; Shakira, almost every 'spanish speaking band'; a new kind of music called Regaton. Of course, I know and understand that many of them may sing very well, but I JUST DON'T LIKE them.

 

@Undertaker: You growl like Steve Tucker? That's good, man. Practice, man, practice... with my former band, we used to do tributes to Dying Fetus... one hour of growling. At first it was hard... but it got smoother and smoother.

 

Contrary to popular belief among people who don't like metal, screaming and growling in such a manner do require skill and practice. Not anybody can do it without losing your voice; yet most growling vocalists do their thing night after night, two hour sets and everything. You have to do it properly, and build up your voice.

And with certain vocalists who's vocals sound like incoherent screaming to unaccustomed ears, they are actually screaming at specified pitch. Take Phil Anselmo, for instance - he does vocal melodies, he just screams them. He's also a very good singer in the traditional sense of the word.

About Britney: it may be that she *can* sing and has learned good techniques (I don't know), but she sure isn't *using* those abilities on her albums.

I have a problem with "artists" who don't write their own stuff yet get public credit for it. People can be great singers without being songwriters, sure. But I hate it when the masses attribute the songs to the singers and don't have the slightest clue of who actually wrote them. Most of the pop (and I mean "pop" as in the crap you hear on commercial radio stations) industry is completely dominated by just a handful of songwriter/producer kind of guys. Williams, Martin and so on. Hit radios playing their radio-friendly hit music distort people's idea of the big picture of what is going on in the world of music way too much as it is; and even further because 90% of everything they hear, no matter who the band or singer, has been written by one of only half a dozen people.

 

Yep. Growling is pretty difficult. It took me almost a year of practice to be able to do it without setting my throat on fire. Of course, even with practice, it's difficult, but in the last days of the golden age of Dying Fetus tributes, I was able to do 1 to 1 1/2 hours. That was enough to do small shows in bars, church basements (yeah, sucks, but hey, at least it was a show), and those kind of small shows.

Sadly, unresolvable issues between the guys led to the demise of this wonderful project. *sigh*

I miss growling One Shot One Kill.

 

Mikael Akerfeld and Dan Swano are my favourite metal singers.

 

Well, yes. That particular noise probably does require some practice and skill. The fact that some of us don't care for it at all only makes it that much more incredulous.

[ November 20, 2005, 05:28: Message edited by: Chandos the Red ]

 

@Susipaisti: true, most true.

 

Scream is different from Hardcore, which is different from post-hardcore. Screamo is screaming about crappy relationships, loss of love, and killing yourself. It sucks.

To quote Terror:

I suggest reading some Throwdown and Terror lyrics. While being filled with explitives, they are about honesty and friendship. While not being "happy-go-lucky," they are truthful.

Yes, they might scream, but that does not mean they are screamo. And for everyone else who claims screaming isn't singing, I would like to let you know that it is singing, just a different type. Just as Alicia Keys is different from, say, Foo Fighters, just more powerful (literally).

And it is quite skillful. Try doing so that it sounds good (to a metalfan, obviously). You will find that it is quite difficult.