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Tsunami victims denied aid by Christian missionaries

Discussion in 'Alley of Dangerous Angles' started by ArtEChoke, Jan 19, 2005.

  1. Cúchulainn Gems: 28/31
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    If this is true than I suggest that the missionaries in questions read the 'New Testament' before trying to 'help people'.

    It reminds me of certain charities in N.Ireland. Without naming names we have one in particular that helps the poor in winter (buy coal for fires, electricty cards, food etc), but there is one tiny condition - you must be Catholic! Actually you don't even have to be a practicing Catholic, you can just live in a Catholic area or go to a Catholic school. Everyone else can starve, die etc.

    Regarding Khemsa from Ohio - you should read up on your Irish history before making statements like that - The south of Ireland was (is) mostly Catholic and the North mostly Protestant. There were some cases of forced conversion.

    Pope Pius IX sent funds as did Queen Victoria. From North American it was the Native Americans that provided the bulk of help. The Irish emigrants were treated worse than slaves when they arrived.

    If you are saying that the British favoured the Protestants over the Catholics (from your forced conversion comment) why did the provence of Ulster loose 15.7% of its population and Leinster less at 15.3%? But this is off topic.

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  2. Morgoth

    Morgoth La lune ne garde aucune rancune Veteran

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    Cesard, you mean the "I only help those who come to me" part? Then every missionary goes against the Bible.
     
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    I am very new to this site I know. But having just returned from Sumatara I have seen first hand the work of most christian and non. This is from my knowledge and experience in the field a False article.as told to me by a survivor "What fear we the terrorist who threatens your life when with one swipe god can take it all". My prasie and admiration to all here and thanks for the few times I was able to connect to this site while sitting in hell.
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    Cesard:

    I never said forced conversions to Catholicism never happened, I simply said the Church forbids it. The Church also forbids murdering people, but that does not mean that there have not been Catholics who have committed murder.

    Concerning the Irish, I am not defending the way the Irish were treated in America (that is impossible to defend), and I never said that assistance did not come to the Irish from other sources. What I said was that the English, more specifically English "charities", would give aid only if the recipient converted to Protestantism. My point was that Catholics have experienced the injustice of "convert or get no help" and, thus, have no business doing the same thing to others.
     
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    Khemsa I think we mis-understood each other. I was just trying to say that that forced conversion to Protestantism may have/did happen on a small scale but from history lessons and books that I have read suggest otherwise.

    I am pleased that the Catholic Church forbids forced conversion but some individuals may consider themselves above such rules. But as I said earlier I hope the story does turn out to be false as I hope people will help each other unconditionally.
     
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    Shrikant Swords! Not words! Veteran

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    This is the only thing I could find.
    Considering the quote was from a political activist I have no qualms accepting that no such thing happened.
     
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