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What would you like to see in a spell package?

Discussion in 'BG2: Throne of Bhaal (Classic)' started by Rastor, Aug 24, 2002.

  1. Gothmog

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    Level 2 druid spells are SOO useless.
    Now i don have any idea right now except something enchanting would be nice :)
     
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    A DRAGON summoning spell wooOOOooOOOHoooOOOooo

    Lorra, lorra dragons! :p
     
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    I believe there already is a red dragon summoning spell in the download section of the site
     
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    How about a spell that transforms you to a dragon? For a short period of time that is...
     
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    [​IMG] oooOOOOOoooh

    Good one

    I can never get my summoning spells to work :almostmad:
    no fair
     
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    Dragon summoning or shapechanging would not be fair, I think these are very useless ideas.
    The character would be too powerful!
    I enjoy RPG-s because they are HARD and good!
    (Certainly this is only my opinion, but I think that many people think so)
    I know people who play BG1 or BGII many times, because they want to increase their character's abilities (str, con, dex, int. wis, cha) to the highest using those Tomes, and the Machine of Lum the Mad. But at least, they fight for it, not simply cheat using editors...

    If we speak about summoning, we can think about Fire Giants (1), Bone Fiends (2), Giant Trolls(2-3),
    etc.
    And the specialist mages could get specific abilities as I mentioned before...

    [ August 27, 2002, 19:42: Message edited by: Baronius the Sorcerer ]
     
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    Yeah well I say blah, blah, blah. Tell me how is summoning a dragon different than summoning a planetar? My planetar killed most of the dragons (before I downloaded the improved dragons) with two or three blows.
     
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    @Baronius:
    Dragon is just a class, dragons can be weak as well as strong.
    When writing a dragon summoning spell you could always make it a baby dragon instead of a level 40 uber dragon
     
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    Just got an idea for level 2 druid spell.

    I would give an extra attack an 2 damage penality on a selected target.(disrupting low level mages with low-level party)

    a normal offensive spell would come handy too :D
     
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    That's true. We could all use a good offensive 2nd lvl druid spell. (Not that I don't have any). How about a 1st lvl mage spell that changes your apperance? Not any of your stats or abilities just the way you look. It might not be that useful but it would be fun to change the apperance. And after all if you can change your apperance to a dragon at level 30 you may also add terror to the spell. I always hated fear when fighting with dragons it's just so annoying.
     
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    Hmmm...Larloch's Major Drain, which would drain around 27 hit points...that would be sufficient. Also, a nice buffing spell for my Kensai/Maje that increases STR/DEX to 25, Casts Improved Haste, Makes immune to charm/hold/feeblemind spells, ups magic resistance and other nice abilities like that, but after the duration was over (an hour or so) the caster would fall unconcious for a good while and have to make a Save vs. Death -2 or be killed...to balance this spell out.
     
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    "That which does not kill me, makes me strong" How about a quest-level spell for an evil mage to become a lich - Edwin finally getting his desire? Of course, maybe there should be some items to collect first, so we might be talking a mod here. The spell should be a one-off, and if a save is failed the character dies, irrevocably.
     
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    @jackson
    that would be completely uber spell :(
    Which battle lasts longer than an hour??? so its no use of that kind of penalty ;)
     
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    @StressedE
    @Keneth

    Yeah, you are right. But most dragons are at high level, because they are ancient creatures.
    And summoning spells do not create a new individual of specific creature. The summoning spells actually "teleport" creatures from they original location. So dragons... young dragons maybe... :)

    And if your Planetar can kill Dragons alone, then you must play in difficulty level 1 or 2, because in dif lev 3 you can only use Planetars to HELP destroying dragons. I think you were very lucky when your Planetar killed a dragon...

    But maybe I am not right... If so, please correct me...

    :)

    [ August 28, 2002, 19:49: Message edited by: Baronius the Sorcerer ]
     
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    Eh, good point., just make the spell last a few rounds and up the Save vs. Death -4 and have some other great penalties to it (Stat. losses and the like).
     
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    [​IMG] Hmm...You're wrong :D . I never play anything else than insane and they still seem to die. Why? Well I dunno. Perhaps just my darn luck.
     
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    Keep in mind, I like the game to be challenging, not a powergamer's paradise. I'm not going to be ridiculously overpowering spells in the mod.

    With that said, most of these ideas do have potential, with a few modifications. Maybe modify the Shapechange spell to have the dragon change as well as it's other ones. I'd down the power of the breath attack and perhaps make that fear effect unresistable, but this is starting to sound good.

    The elemental spells have already been created and packaged, but I still have plenty of space and time to add more. Keep the good ideas coming guys!

    [ August 30, 2002, 00:31: Message edited by: Rastor ]
     
  18. Baronius

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    There are many Touch spells (Vampire, Ghoul, Chill).
    Some new?
    How about one of these:

    Touch of Death
    Necromancy
    Duration: Instant
    Range: Touch
    Level 9

    Target (not immune to death magic) must save vs spell at -4 and save vs death at -4 or instantly die.
    This spell always hits (like Vampiric Touch).

    or

    Death Touch
    Necromancy
    Duration: 5 rounds
    Range: Touch
    Level 9

    Caster must hit the target (like Ghoul Touch).
    If the caster succesfully hits the target, the target must save vs death at +3 or instantly die.
    This spell is ineffective if target is immune to death magic. This spell gives +10 to caster's Thac0.

    [ August 30, 2002, 20:58: Message edited by: Baronius the Sorcerer ]
     
  19. Gothmog

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    I thought these spells were too powerful until i saw the level ;) :eek:
    Level 9 spells are anyway cast in ToB, and there almost anyone can make that save.I think it should be level 8 or even 7 :)
     
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    What's wrong with power game paradise? Hmm... How about a mix of Abi Dalzim's Horrid Whilting and Wail of Banshee? It kills anyone unless a successful save is made but even so it deals an amount of damage. Of course there can be a diffrent grafic like a blue fireball or a color (read prismatic) spray.
     
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